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festivalgirl
01-15-2009, 03:58 PM
Drink Beer - Help the Economy!!

MILWAUKEE (AP) -- Even the brewing industry is starting to go flat in the worldwide economic slump.

SABMiller PLC, the London-based brewer of Grolsch, Miller Genuine Draft and Peroni Nastro Azzurro lagers, said on Thursday its beer shipments fell unexpectedly in the third quarter as consumers pulled back on their demand.

Carlsberg A/S, the Copenhagen-based maker of Carslberg beer, said it was cutting 274 jobs to save on costs due to a future ''where we face more uncertainties and risks,'' the company said in a statement.

Beer usually holds up better than other categories during tough economic times, said Benj Steinman, editor of trade publication Beer Marketer's Insights, and that trend had been holding true during this recession for some segments of the industry. But the latest figures show the market is trending downward, perhaps accelerating as global economies continue to sputter, and relief seems uncertain.

Beer is ''recession-resistant, not recession-proof,'' Steinman said.

SABMiller said lager volumes fell 1 percent in the three-month period that ended Dec. 31, compared with the same period a year earlier, because of the economy.

''Consumer demand has been affected by the current global economic slowdown, and has continued to weaken in many of the group's markets,'' the company said in releasing its quarterly trading update, which does not provide financials.

The company said, however, that its financial performance remained in line with expectations ''notwithstanding the relative strength of the U.S. dollar against the group's major currencies.''

The rise in the U.S. dollar also has hurt businesses with overseas interests.

SABMiller is the world's second-largest brewer by volume after losing the top spot to Anheuser-Busch Inbev NV after InBev's $52 billion acquisition of Anheuser-Busch last year. In November, SABMiller said it was scaling back investment in the face of continued cost pressures and slowing demand for beer worldwide.

With the latest numbers, it appears demand has been hit hardest in the U.S. and Europe.

In the U.S., SABMiller and rival Molson Coors Brewing Co. saved costs last summer with a domestic joint venture called MillerCoors.

But MillerCoors sales are falling too. Domestic sales to retailers fell 2.3 percent over the third quarter, with flagship Miller Lite's sales falling 7.5 percent. Coors Light continued its momentum, posting a 1 percent sales increase, according to the company. But that was slower than in previous quarters, Steinman noted.

He said the Miller Lite number should be cause for concern about the brand. The fact that Coors Light's 1 percent growth was slower than in previous quarters could signal that the overall beer market is getting weaker, he said.

The U.S. beer market typically grows about 1 percent a year, over a ten-year average. In the past few years it had been growing ahead of that. But in 2008 sales rose about half a percentage point, he said.

MillerCoors said its premium light brand volumes were down 2.4 percent, with particular softness in restaurants and bars, where consumers are cutting back as they try to stretch their budgets. But MGD 64, a 64-calorie version of Miller Genuine Draft, kept growing after its launch last year, SABMiller said, and craft and imports rose 1.6 percent, led by a double-digit performance from Blue Moon.

In Europe, where consumers are also hurting, lager volume fell 1 percent, including a 22 percent drop in Russia. But MillerCoors volume grew 2 percent in Poland, where the company gained market share. In Romania, the volume growth rate slowed to 11 percent, while the Czech Republic's domestic volumes dropped 1 percent.

SABMiller also said volume in developing countries, which produce around 80 percent of its profits, is slowing as the credit crunch deepens.

Third-quarter shipments rose 2 percent in Latin America, stymied by a 6 percent decline in Colombia, the company's biggest market in the region. In Africa and Asia, organic lager volumes increased 2 percent, with growth in China flat.

Carlsberg, citing an uncertain future, said in its news release Thursday that it was accelerating its restructuring plan to improve on efficiencies. In Denmark, the company said it was starting Thursday to negotiate with unions to cut 150 jobs.

Carlsberg Baltic started restructuring its business in late 2008 and will now accelerate that by cutting 124 jobs, in addition to the 80 layoffs announced in November.

ABITAGIRL1
01-15-2009, 04:12 PM
As a patriot I am willing to do whatever it takes to boost the economy. I'm off to the beer store now to replenish my Abita stock..............

almarco
01-15-2009, 05:22 PM
Drink Beer - Help the Economy!!

Yikes! say it is not so! man I might have to start drinking more to jump start the economy , its a tough job..by hey!

rosetree
01-15-2009, 05:28 PM
Gumbo, please take care of this this weekend...;) :D

ibjamn
01-15-2009, 05:30 PM
But hard liquor sales are up....

almarco
01-15-2009, 05:30 PM
Gumbo, please take care of this this weekend...;) :D

Tarbender one truckload of abita please!

festivalgirl
01-15-2009, 05:30 PM
We know we'll help SABMiller during Fest!!

MaloGator
01-15-2009, 05:48 PM
But hard liquor sales are up....

You're reaching for the bourbon when you mean business. And when there is no business...

jonnygospeltent
01-15-2009, 05:54 PM
I've been on the wagon since New Years and see what happens.

almarco
01-15-2009, 06:13 PM
I've been on the wagon since New Years and see what happens.

Geez johnny , get with the program....

Amy Winette
01-15-2009, 06:16 PM
But hard liquor sales are up....

Yup! Cost saving measure. If you've only got a little money to get your buzz on, go for the most bang for the buck . . .

festbabe
01-15-2009, 07:09 PM
You're reaching for the bourbon when you mean business. And when there is no business...

I read once somewhere that bartending was an economy-safe job. When times are good and folks have money, they drink. When times are bad and folks are broke, they drink. I guess just the vintage differs.

MormonMatthew
01-15-2009, 07:25 PM
I read once somewhere that bartending was an economy-safe job. When times are good and folks have money, they drink. When times are bad and folks are broke, they drink. I guess just the vintage differs.

I read the same thing re alcohol sales in a recession/depression......
What I wonder is, if $$$ is really tight, wouldnt BAR sales drop, as more dedicated tipplers head to a package store-as opposed to drinking away from home, which is usually at a significantly higher price?

festivalgirl
01-15-2009, 07:29 PM
I read once somewhere that bartending was an economy-safe job. When times are good and folks have money, they drink. When times are bad and folks are broke, they drink. I guess just the vintage differs.

Sales are okay (not as good as usual) but tips go way down in bad times.

Good for Bar, Bad for Bartender.

Remember, be good to your bartender he/she's been good to you!

Belle
01-15-2009, 07:36 PM
But hard liquor sales are up....


Our state ABC is up 10% over last year. Folks are drinking at home not at bars just hope it is not in cars.

swag
01-15-2009, 08:11 PM
My local bar has been more crowded lately than in the past.

mymecca
01-15-2009, 08:44 PM
it certainly isn't us!...except maybe at the fillmore where they are gougin' even on beer prices...$6.50 which turns into $8.00 'cause it just ain't right to tip in coinage :0(

Fred (Texas JF Fanatic)
01-15-2009, 08:58 PM
it certainly isn't us!...except maybe at the fillmore where they are gougin' even on beer prices...$6.50 which turns into $8.00 'cause it just ain't right to tip in coinage :0(

I know what ya talking about. Our HOB is $7 plus tip. I hate the owners (Live Nations) but they have the shows worth going to. I've started drinking coffee at shows and it is much safer driving home now.

bobatude
01-15-2009, 09:33 PM
http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/bobatude/AUT_9101.jpg

this should help

Phatpapa
01-15-2009, 09:38 PM
http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/bobatude/AUT_9101.jpg

this should help

TFF, bob

Did you have to pay for that pic?

I have been suckered into in the past

jerseygirl67
01-15-2009, 09:42 PM
Tarbender one truckload of abita please!

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii279/jerseygirl6719/New%20Orleans%202008/100_1028.jpg

Here's that truckload

sharon_loves_fats
01-15-2009, 09:45 PM
Hehehe.. Sweet, JG!

Amy Winette
01-15-2009, 10:03 PM
I read the same thing re alcohol sales in a recession/depression......
What I wonder is, if $$$ is really tight, wouldnt BAR sales drop, as more dedicated tipplers head to a package store-as opposed to drinking away from home, which is usually at a significantly higher price?

Yes, I believe that is true. Owning the liquor store is the job to have.

Fred (Texas JF Fanatic)
01-15-2009, 10:09 PM
Yes, I believe that is true. Owning the liquor store is the job to have.

I agree with ya. But owning a live music club that sells liquor might be better.
Now that would be the life. Booking shows you want to see and going broke but having fun doing it. Risky business.

mightyradgumbo
01-16-2009, 12:46 AM
If we stop dinking the terrorists win, folks...sorry, just had to say that as an homage to dubya's last official weekend.

Doubledown
01-16-2009, 12:49 AM
We will try to make up for slow sales next month in New Orleans,

festivalgirl
01-16-2009, 02:06 AM
If we stop dinking the terrorists win, folks...sorry, just had to say that as an homage to dubya's last official weekend.

http://www.musicnotes.com/images/productimages/mtd/mn0062444.gif

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t38/slangius/posts/2640218293_504e9abb63.jpg

MaloGator
01-16-2009, 05:35 AM
I read once somewhere that bartending was an economy-safe job. When times are good and folks have money, they drink. When times are bad and folks are broke, they drink. I guess just the vintage differs.

I've noticed a bit of a drop off lately, although I'm only slingin' drinks on the weekends. It could be the holiday crunch and the bitter cold that are keeping them home, but as FestivalGirl said, the tips are definitely down. A buck or two on a multi-drink round, whereas before it would be three+.

Tip your bartender so he/she can have a no-worries rompathon at JF!

MaloGator
01-16-2009, 05:37 AM
If we stop dinking the terrorists win, folks...sorry, just had to say that as an homage to dubya's last official weekend.

Ain't gonna be no tear in my beer, I'll tell you what!:p

Moon
01-16-2009, 08:26 AM
Our state ABC is up 10% over last year. Folks are drinking at home not at bars just hope it is not in cars.

I'm drinking everywhere I can. Between the economy, the election, the sad state of my local hockey team, and the fucking Braves; it's a miracle I'm not on skid row.