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Voodoohead
02-16-2008, 10:10 PM
Jackson Square shut down for NBA party
by The Times-Picayune
Thursday February 14, 2008, 10:06 PM

By Michelle Krupa
Staff writer
In an unusual private takeover of New Orleans' pre-eminent public gathering place, Jackson Square will shut down tonight to host a private party for 2,500 people drawn from the ranks of pro basketball stars, politicians and other invited guests in town for Sunday's NBA All-Star Game.

The reception, featuring 20 food vendors, live music on three stages and a second-line parade, will honor volunteers, including NBA players, who are scheduled to participate today in 10 rebuilding projects across the city. The NBA has paid $5,000, plus a $2,500 deposit to cover damage and litter pickup, to rent the square and a pair of alleys next to St. Louis Cathedral, a mayoral spokesman said.

As part of a four-day basketball showcase expected to produce major economic benefits for the city, the "2008 Celebration of Contribution" party is expected to draw a cadre of famous customers to merchants' shops along Jackson Square. But musicians, artists and tarot card readers who peddle their services on the square's slate-lined streets are crying foul, saying the party is leaving them on the sidelines during a potentially huge payday.

As crews got to work early Thursday setting up barricades along Decatur Street at St. Peter and St. Ann streets, dozens of entertainers found themselves ejected from park benches and removed from areas along the wrought-iron fences that typically serve as art-for-sale galleries.

In a news release Thursday, a city official explained that "in following the protocol for past events held at Jackson Square," New Orleans police told the artists and vendors they would not be allowed on the square from Thursday morning through Saturday at 5 a.m.

"Artists and vendors who work around the perimeter of Jackson Square do not have licenses or permits which entitles them to a fixed location," Courtney Bagneris, an assistant chief administrative officer at City Hall, said in the statement.

In a nod to complaints lodged this week by carriage drivers hoping for big business on Valentine's Day, the city allowed mule-and-buggy operations to retain their home base along Decatur Street at Jackson Square through this morning, but made clear they would have to leave at that time to accommodate preparations for the megaparty, Bagneris said.

Tarot card reader Jennifer Waldron said city officials have not taken similar steps to oblige musicians, mimes, balloon artists, food vendors and others whose city-issued permits allow them to work only in specified areas on the square. According to city law, violating the rules could result in a misdemeanor charge and revocation of the permit.

"I'm not saying we don't want the NBA here," Waldron said. "I'm just saying that if the city's going to shut down the square, the city has to move us or compensate us."

The entertainers want City Hall to allow them to work outside areas specified on their city-issued permits during the three days of high-volume activity through the French Quarter, namely the Moonwalk along the Mississippi River or Royal Street between Orleans and Conti streets, Waldron said.

"It's a Mardi Gras-style week that we're being shut out of," said Joseph Zaba, another tarot card reader.

According to a Feb. 1 letter to NBA executive Patrick Mahoney signed by Mayor Ray Nagin, "the city will relocate street vendors via the New Orleans Police Department and relocate all 'horse and buggy' carriages .¤.¤. to a location outside of the Jackson Square area," during the three-day period.

The letter also says that "the city will provide New Orleans Police Department officers, at no cost to the NBA, during the hours of noon until midnight" today. Nagin spokesman James Ross did not respond to questions about the letter.

Meanwhile, proprietors of permanent businesses on the ground floor of the Pontalba Apartment complexes that straddle Jackson Square along St. Peter and St. Ann streets are not facing a similar problem.

Antoinette deAlteriis, an officer of the Jackson Square Association, said access to the stores and to four restaurants at the corners of the square will not be impeded because of the party, though security checkpoints will be in place during the event, which is scheduled to last from 8 p.m. to midnight.

The NBA actually has encouraged its invited guests to patronize Jackson Square's art and clothing stores during the event, a move that has prompted some owners to extend their hours today through 9 p.m., deAlteriis said. Mahoney also visited the merchants organization's monthly meeting this week to clear up confusion about how the party could affect them.

"They've done what they can do to make this a positive event for everyone," she said. "We're welcoming them to the city, and certainly the money that they bring is not going to hurt us."

However, in contrast to the shopkeepers' experience, deAlteriis acknowledged that a "communications breakdown" had occurred between City Hall and street performers.

Other French Quarter residents and business owners also complained Thursday that the city has not provided adequate information about street closures related to the event.

Longtime French Quarter resident and business owner Louis Sahuc said even though foot traffic will not be completely interrupted during the three days Jackson Square is blocked off, he expects the barricades to discourage visitors from heading into the lower end of the neighborhood, where his photography gallery is located.

"All these businesses, we could all just go home," he said.

Sahuc said he objects in principle to City Hall renting out the area. Heavy equipment used in staging the party will damage the area's infrastructure, he said, and the event perverts the sanctity of the area formerly known as "Public Square."

"The city has been pimping the square, and we get nothing for it," Sahuc said.

Though a wholesale shutdown of Jackson Square is rare, the area occasionally has been cordoned off as a security precaution, most recently during President Bush's televised address after Hurricane Katrina. Similar measures were taken in advance of the 1999 wedding of then-Mayor Marc Morial at St. Louis Cathedral.

The area usually is closed to vehicles on New Year's Eve, though the square remains open to the pedestrians. In perhaps the most public rejection of a request to shut down the area, the city declined the Walt Disney Co.'s appeal to use it in June 1996 as part of the premiere of the animated film "Hunchback of Notre Dame."

Frank Donze contributed to this report. Michelle Krupa can be reached at mkrupa@timespicayune.com or (504)¤826-3312.

For $5000.00 and a $2500.00 deposit, we should put the Threadhead Party there! Yea, they got Shaq and Lebron, but we got Swag and Chris Joseph!

ibjamn
02-17-2008, 09:15 AM
Gosh, I'd love to get all up in arms in support of some guy sprayed silver standing on a milk crate, but this event is HUGE for the city and almost didn't come here because they "didn't think we were ready".

papafrog
02-17-2008, 09:44 AM
at first i really thought the city, and the nba struck a really poor deal...
but after thinking about it a bit, and looking at the whole picture...
the renting of jackson square for one nite is just part of the whole
nba all star week deal.....which is really good for the city....
i was actually able to attend the friday nite event...one of the merchants
lent me their access pass for a minute.....and as it turns out almost
all local bands and food merchants were hired to perform and cook...
kermit,pinstripe brass, washboard chaz,etc....
cafe du monde, lil dizzys, etc......
and all the local street performers, tarot readers,etc....set up a block
or 2 away...
and all the merchants on the square were invited....
so im with jenn on this....if jackson square helped get the nba all star
event to new orleans.....its good for the city...

Zydekitten
02-17-2008, 09:53 AM
I agree - me three. The small inconvenience was only a couple of days (and weekdays at that), things were back to normal yesterday and it was a great thing for the city to be able to do this big event weekend.

Dixiegal
02-17-2008, 10:55 AM
Gosh, I'd love to get all up in arms in support of some guy sprayed silver standing on a milk crate, but this event is HUGE for the city and almost didn't come here because they "didn't think we were ready".

I agree - I saw the pics of all the volunteer work they did, and I'm grateful to them. Great PR for us too.

Orleansnj
02-17-2008, 12:17 PM
Yeah - I agree with most posters that it it's fine to close down that section of the city because the return on that is a large scale publicity effort that will be played over and over again outside of the city.... - but does anyone else think that renting out Jackson Square for only 5K is a bit low? It's a major piece of property in the city - hello - probably one of the most photographed representations of New Orleans..... Not to mention it's historical significance etc. I think that if I asked someone in NYC to rent out a space in NYC, Chicago, Los Angeles or Boston for 5k they would wet their pants laughing.

I'm not encouraging greed - but I also don't think that it would be over the top to ask $25,000 for the space to cover the costs of trash pick up (2,500 isn't going to do it) and the police presence - let's face it - NOPD isn't flush with cash or staff so I'm sure there was over-time pay. There is also an issue of basic grounds maintenance. With that much traffic there is likely to be some sod/grass repair, plant replacement etc. Admittedly, it is a double edged sword - no need to be unnecessarily greedy - but also no need to give away the store...

Just putting it out there for consideration.

McGregor
02-17-2008, 12:22 PM
$5K being a low figure was the first thing I thought of when I read it as well (of course, I don't know much about such matters).

Dr John singing "What a Wonderful World" last night was very cool.

Zydekitten
02-17-2008, 12:26 PM
That is a valid point - Jackson Square should merit more than just five grand for such an event. :(

However, I will say that I walked past the Square yesterday afternoon on my way to LMF and it looked in excellent condition from the party - so it seems they did an effective job of keeping the sod undamaged and things pretty clean . . .

chicagomike
02-17-2008, 12:26 PM
5 grand ? ]It should have been 500 grand. In all seriousness, does that 5000 even pay for police security for the event ?

saturn
02-17-2008, 12:41 PM
Would police security be included in the price? Or would they have to arrange that separately?

mightyradgumbo
02-17-2008, 01:11 PM
I am betting that the 5K was just for the rental of the property-which is a sweet deal in of itself-the 2,500 was a deposit for trash, which from my limited involvement means if you make more of a 2500 dollar mess we bill you the rest, you make less of one we keep the 2500.
Sounds like they got the police details as a lagniappe. Given the event was a VIP access type of event, doesn't sound like there would be a huge detail involved.
So I think the bang for the buck could have been more just looking at it initially, but if you figure that event and convention planners from around the country and maybe the world were looking to see how this was pulled off the residual business could be huge.
Just shows you once again, when New Orleans is asked to play host, they do it better than any other city. Even the street performers and carriage drivers seemed to do ok in the deal in the end.

frangooch
02-17-2008, 02:44 PM
Watched the pre all star stuff (slam dunk, etc) last night and I thought the city showed really well--beyootiful, in fact. Nice integration of music in the proceedings, especially Dr John and the Dirty Dozen. I don't live there, but I have to think the event is nothing but good for Nola.

Frosty
02-17-2008, 05:47 PM
Gosh, I'd love to get all up in arms in support of some guy sprayed silver standing on a milk crate, but this event is HUGE for the city and almost didn't come here because they "didn't think we were ready".


Actually, he was on TV last night so he doesn't seem to be hurting from this.

I am a big basketball fan and watched a tape of all of yesterday's events this morning. This has been an awesome presentation of the city. Marc Broussard and Dirty Dozen sounded great for the NBA Jam, etc. Dr. John did a wonderful version of What a Wonderful World. The city couldn't look better. And all of the thugposses that overran Vegas have been replaced by careworkers helping the city out. And just to see if I was only getting the polished NBA version of things, I see the Times has not reported on any serious issues surrounding the events. I couldn't be happier with how this has showcased the city. Thank you to David Stern and the NBA. You've done good.

rosetree
02-17-2008, 08:51 PM
Anyone watch the All-Star introductions with Kermit, Shorty, and Rebirth?????
Real nice!!!!!

bluedog
02-17-2008, 09:00 PM
Anyone watch the All-Star introductions with Kermit, Shorty, and Rebirth?????
Real nice!!!!!

yup! Real Nice! but I just don't get how some of the players could just stand there like nuthin' was happenin' when all that fab music was in their ears? /shrugs/ I was movin' & shakin' though ... HCj & Ellis Marsalis & others are scheduled for the half time show YAY! It is half time yet?

frangooch
02-17-2008, 09:06 PM
yup! Real Nice! but I just don't get how some of the players could just stand there like nuthin' was happenin' when all that fab music was in their ears? /shrugs/ I was movin' & shakin' though ... HCj & Branford Marsalis & others are scheduled for the half time show YAY! It is half time yet?

Yes, the game is sort of getting in the way of the real fun, isn't it?

mariena
02-17-2008, 09:13 PM
I did! Really liked our nat. anthem.

bluedog
02-17-2008, 10:14 PM
Yes, the game is sort of getting in the way of the real fun, isn't it?
YYR! :D

Corona
02-18-2008, 04:44 AM
DAMMIT!!! I forgot about this :( See what happens when I take a few days off from the board!!!!

SoCalFestLover
02-18-2008, 04:07 PM
That seems like an awful good price to me. I wouldn't mind booking a wedding reception there. Has to be a whole lot cheaper than some hotel banquet room. And quite romantic location also.

But I'm SURE they wouldn't take that money from any of us. Got to be powerful like the NBA to warrant such a good deal.

Is it any wonder though? VIP's get all the free stuff, like those $50K gift bags they get at awards ceremonies, etc. Of course, the people who can afford it the most, usually get all the benefits, whereas those for whom these items could come in handy, get NADA.

Orleansnj
02-18-2008, 04:22 PM
That seems like an awful good price to me. I wouldn't mind booking a wedding reception there. Has to be a whole lot cheaper than some hotel banquet room. And quite romantic location also.

But I'm SURE they wouldn't take that money from any of us. Got to be powerful like the NBA to warrant such a good deal.

Is it any wonder though? VIP's get all the free stuff, like those $50K gift bags they get at awards ceremonies, etc. Of course, the people who can afford it the most, usually get all the benefits, whereas those for whom these items could come in handy, get NADA.

I wouldn't be so sure.....you should look into it.....

festbabe
02-18-2008, 04:26 PM
Is it any wonder though? VIP's get all the free stuff, like those $50K gift bags they get at awards ceremonies, etc. Of course, the people who can afford it the most, usually get all the benefits, whereas those for whom these items could come in handy, get NADA.

They may not have to purchase it, but there is a cost. The "free" gift bags? They have to claim the fair market value of the gift as income and pay appropriate tax on it. Course, they have tax lawyers & financial 'people' who figure out how to minimize their taxes.... Then the tax guy & CPA are getting paid!

mightyradgumbo
02-18-2008, 05:58 PM
Here is Bill Simmons from ESPN talking about NOLA and the NBA this weekend. I believe he gets "it"...

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/080219

stynger
02-18-2008, 06:12 PM
A very good article. Everyone should read it.

I think he really hit the nail on the head with this quote.

"I spent the weekend thinking New Orleans looked like a movie set of the old New Orleans, like they had rebuilt everything and made it look exactly the same, only it wasn't quite the same."

festbabe
02-18-2008, 06:18 PM
Here is Bill Simmons from ESPN talking about NOLA and the NBA this weekend. I believe he gets "it"...

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/080219

Wow - that's just wonderful. I've got a lump in my throat.

"You came because of the festive, chaotic, electric, indescribable atmosphere that never quite spiralled out of control."

"Everyone who travelled here for All-Star Weekend will think about returning some day, not because they feel bad, but because it's New Orleans, and it's ready for us again. Skip your next Vegas trip and convince your friends to spend a wild weekend in the French Quarter. Don't do it for charity, do it because it will be fun. And it will."

papafrog
02-18-2008, 08:40 PM
and this from sports illustrateds Ian Thomsen..

NEW ORLEANS -- The NBA came here to help rescue a city, and what did Paul McCartney say about that kind of work? The love you take is equal to the love you make.

For so many years the NBA's All-Star Weekend has been growing like a tumor upon the soul of the game, a vehicle of greed, selfishness and other vices in blight of the larger team values. But that trend was arrested by coming this weekend to New Orleans, where the NBA's biggest stars spent Friday working on community projects that emphasized giving instead of taking.

For this weekend, at least, the league rediscovered its soul.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/ian_thomsen/02/18/allstar.weekend/index.html

Dixiegal
02-18-2008, 09:00 PM
Wow - that's just wonderful. I've got a lump in my throat.

"You came because of the festive, chaotic, electric, indescribable atmosphere that never quite spiralled out of control."

"Everyone who travelled here for All-Star Weekend will think about returning some day, not because they feel bad, but because it's New Orleans, and it's ready for us again. Skip your next Vegas trip and convince your friends to spend a wild weekend in the French Quarter. Don't do it for charity, do it because it will be fun. And it will."

Same here - I got totally teared up. Awesome article - some people actually get it.

Dixiegal
02-18-2008, 09:02 PM
and this from sports illustrateds Ian Thomsen..

NEW ORLEANS -- The NBA came here to help rescue a city, and what did Paul McCartney say about that kind of work? The love you take is equal to the love you make.

For so many years the NBA's All-Star Weekend has been growing like a tumor upon the soul of the game, a vehicle of greed, selfishness and other vices in blight of the larger team values. But that trend was arrested by coming this weekend to New Orleans, where the NBA's biggest stars spent Friday working on community projects that emphasized giving instead of taking.

For this weekend, at least, the league rediscovered its soul.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/ian_thomsen/02/18/allstar.weekend/index.html


That was great too. This quote really got me:
"The smiles meant something this time. Future All-Star Weekends will be played in more normal circumstances, and the smiles may not be so sincere and gratifying as they were this weekend. For the NBA players, the trick will be to define themselves moving forward as this weekend served to define them. The lesson is to play for something larger than yourself, and that was the gift these millionaires received from the city that lost everything."

papafrog
02-18-2008, 09:05 PM
a lesson we learn every day living here...
was in the st. roch neighborhood on sunday...

Dixiegal
02-18-2008, 09:12 PM
a lesson we learn every day living here...
was in the st. roch neighborhood on sunday...


are you gonna finish that thought? ;)

mrSteve
02-18-2008, 09:15 PM
That seems like an awful good price to me. I wouldn't mind booking a wedding reception there. Has to be a whole lot cheaper than some hotel banquet room. And quite romantic location also.

But I'm SURE they wouldn't take that money from any of us. Got to be powerful like the NBA to warrant such a good deal.

Is it any wonder though? VIP's get all the free stuff, like those $50K gift bags they get at awards ceremonies, etc. Of course, the people who can afford it the most, usually get all the benefits, whereas those for whom these items could come in handy, get NADA.

Might be a nice place for a Patry at that price, I'm just sayin!

papafrog
02-18-2008, 09:21 PM
are you gonna finish that thought? ;)

the neighborhood has a long way to go....but theres a lot of good people
there, i was at an event in st.roch on sunday where artists have taken over half destroyed houses and created very moving projects...and theyve renovated an old bakery, and its now an art gallery/cultural center.......
im going to volunteer some time...
hopefully the st. roch market will reopen....

Dixiegal
02-18-2008, 09:29 PM
the neighborhood has a long way to go....but theres a lot of good people
there, i was at an event in st.roch on sunday where artists have taken over half destroyed houses and created very moving projects...and theyve renovated an old bakery, and its now an art gallery/cultural center.......
im going to volunteer some time...
hopefully the st. roch market will reopen....

That's awesome. My neighbor here grew up in that area - he marches in the Krewe of Drieux every year. I'll have to tell him about that. Do they need people to volunteer time?

papafrog
02-18-2008, 09:31 PM
That's awesome. My neighbor here grew up in that area - he marches in the Krewe of Drieux every year. I'll have to tell him about that. Do they need people to volunteer time?

im sure they do.....one of the artists is helping to renovate playgrounds,
and he asked for volunteers.....i dont have the contact info with me
but ill post it tomorrow.....

Orleansnj
02-18-2008, 09:35 PM
St. Roch was in a state before the thing. I remember going there to buy rabbit many years ago- and it was a great place to get turtle meat for turtle stew.....

I've heard rumors about people wanting to reopen the St. Roch - but the city has been a bit odd about the whole thing (according to the grapevine with which I am in touch). It would be a perfect location and anchor to a whole st. claude renewal - especially if it was reopened as the marketplace with multiple vendors etc.

the possibilities are endless.....the money is not.... but who knows - something purely magical could happen there centered around an artists/grassroots kind of development.

papafrog
02-18-2008, 09:42 PM
A very good article. Everyone should read it.

I think he really hit the nail on the head with this quote.

"I spent the weekend thinking New Orleans looked like a movie set of the old New Orleans, like they had rebuilt everything and made it look exactly the same, only it wasn't quite the same."

and he finished that thought with "and thats going to take time"...

it was a beautiful article....and its great to know that articles like that
are being written all over the world....
new orleans spirit did as much for the nba as the nba did for new orleans.

Dixiegal
02-18-2008, 10:14 PM
St. Roch was in a state before the thing. I remember going there to buy rabbit many years ago- and it was a great place to get turtle meat for turtle stew.....

I've heard rumors about people wanting to reopen the St. Roch - but the city has been a bit odd about the whole thing (according to the grapevine with which I am in touch). It would be a perfect location and anchor to a whole st. claude renewal - especially if it was reopened as the marketplace with multiple vendors etc.

the possibilities are endless.....the money is not.... but who knows - something purely magical could happen there centered around an artists/grassroots kind of development.


Have you heard about the project started by the Tulane grads to re-develop the Tulane corridor? That area has been a h*llhole for a long time now, but they have started with $125 million and are going to renovate the old Falstaff building.

papafrog
02-18-2008, 10:17 PM
Have you heard about the project started by the Tulane grads to re-develop the Tulane corridor? That area has been a h*llhole for a long time now, but they have started with $125 million and are going to renovate the old Falstaff building.

that would be great...i know tulane grads had developed new
shotgun models, energy efficient,etc.....
is this close to where the new veterans hospital is going to be built?

Dixiegal
02-18-2008, 10:23 PM
that would be great...i know tulane grads had developed new
shotgun models, energy efficient,etc.....
is this close to where the new veterans hospital is going to be built?

I'm not sure - I know they are going to try and turn the Falstaff building into mixed residential/retail space, with shops on the ground floor and condos above. They were talking about it on WWL the other day. We're finally getting our "cranes in the sky". :)

papafrog
02-18-2008, 10:27 PM
I'm not sure - I know they are going to try and turn the Falstaff building into mixed residential/retail space, with shops on the ground floor and condos above. They were talking about it on WWL the other day. We're finally getting our "cranes in the sky". :)

actually i think the falstaff is already open for rent....i kind of remember
seeing a sign at tips that apartments are available...

Dixiegal
02-18-2008, 10:47 PM
actually i think the falstaff is already open for rent....i kind of remember
seeing a sign at tips that apartments are available...

They must have been talking about this, the Rice Mill Lofts, supposed to open this year:
http://archrecord.construction.com/news/OnTheBoards/0704NOLArehabs.asp