WWOZ Internet Radio Thing of the Past?

[Lostcajun]

As everyone has returned to the grind I though we might want to focus a little attention on WWOZ's internet presence. Please go to their site and check out the concern about the FCC's attempts to raise rates for stations like WWOZ for their streaming content. I listen to OZ almost every day on the net. If you do to you might want look at this.

You can also go to:

www.savenetradio.org

[Lester_leaps_in]

As everyone has returned to the grind I though we might want to focus a little attention on WWOZ's internet presence. Please go to their site and check out the concern about the FCC's attempts to raise rates for stations like WWOZ for their streaming content. I listen to OZ almost every day on the net. If you do to you might want look at this.

You can also go to:

www.savenetradio.org (http://www.savenetradio.org)


Thanks for the heads up, LC. I have Hillary on speed dial. I'll give her a call. She's gotta be good for sumpthin'

[steveo]

bump

[Moon]

"I love music but I hate the music industry with every fiber of my being."...Artie Shaw

[pokerchick66]

As everyone has returned to the grind I though we might want to focus a little attention on WWOZ's internet presence. Please go to their site and check out the concern about the FCC's attempts to raise rates for stations like WWOZ for their streaming content. I listen to OZ almost every day on the net. If you do to you might want look at this.

You can also go to:

www.savenetradio.org

Well, I called Senator Shelby and talked to his assistant. I not only told her that I would like him to co-sponsor the Internet Radio Equality Act, I also talked to her about the preservation of New Orleans and the wetlands. She said she'd let him know . . .

[steveo]

Bump, Trombone Shorty, Kermit Ruffins and others are backing this. www.savenetradio.org

[Lester_leaps_in]

Thanks for the heads up, LC. I have Hillary on speed dial. I'll give her a call. She's gotta be good for sumpthin'


I heard back from Hillary's office. Her staffer said that Hillary would give my thoughts on the matter "full consideration." That does not sound encouraging to me.

[Lostcajun]

I don't want to imagine a world without WWOZ on the net.

[Frosty]

I just love how this nation legislates the little guys out of business. Losing WWOZ on the net will NOT make me listen to Clear Channel.

[AtPontchartrain]

I just love how this nation legislates the little guys out of business. Losing WWOZ on the net will NOT make me listen to Clear Channel.

The Radio and Internet Newsletter at http://www.kurthanson.com/ is a good source of information on this issue. Some performers and songwriters feel that they are not being paid enough in mechanical royalties (http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/music-royalties6.htm) for internet play, and they support an increase in charges to netcasters. But, from the view of both the internet stations and the audience, it looks like the current increase would put the stations out of business. One practical result could be: standardization of subscription-based, instead of advertising-based, net radio.

[Frosty]

The thing is, I bet its the big names who want the increases since they don't need the exposure. For an artist who relies on WWOZ or another small station's broadcasts to get heard, it can be a huge loss.

[larrybawlmer]

The link at the beginning of this thread or go to wwoz.org and hit the link and they will give you all the phone#'s to call for your elected officials. Let's make some noise on this one. It'll kill the local artists.

[AtPontchartrain]

The thing is, I bet its the big names who want the increases since they don't need the exposure. For an artist who relies on WWOZ or another small station's broadcasts to get heard, it can be a huge loss.

Well, the guy who sent me one of these panicked much-forwarded emails is a little name, and though I don't agree with his stand, it is worth knowing his thought process. The lobbying that has impressed him takes the approach that it's the big companies that benefit from not paying royalties to the little guys. There is some truth to this. For many years the performing rights organizations -- ASCAP, BMI, etc., have paid the big names, and ignored the little names. Now with computerized sales checkouts and playlists and internet sales, it is easier to keep track of all sales, so now the little guys are starting to get some royalties. And SOME but not most of the little guys see the net royalty increase as a chance to get paid what they are due, and they see our opposition to increased royalties as just encouraging the mass volume the big labels need.

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!!!SOUNDEXCHANGE MEMBER ALERT !!!
YOUR ROYALTIES AT RISK
FROM CLEAR CHANNEL AND YAHOO!
Clearchannel, AOL, Yahoo!, Microsoft and other big corporations are
aggressively trying to cut webcasting royalties to artists and labels by 70
percent. That means not only gutting the recent decision by the Copyright
Royalty Board (CRB) that set rates at fair market value, but rolling back
rates already paid by webcasters.

We need you to write to your Senators and Representatives in Congress
immediately.

Click here
<http://www.magnetmail1.net/ls.cfm?r=51892103&sid=2274891&m=309435&u=SoundEx
&s=http://capwiz.com/soundexchange/issues/alert/?alertid=9500831&PROCESS=Tak
e+Action>
to let Congress know you are outraged by this attempted big
corporate money-grab at your expense.

[snip, snip, snip]

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[Frosty]

Well, the guy who sent me one of these panicked much-forwarded emails is a little name, and though I don't agree with his stand, it is worth knowing his thought process. The lobbying that has impressed him takes the approach that it's the big companies that benefit from not paying royalties to the little guys. There is some truth to this. For many years the performing rights organizations -- ASCAP, BMI, etc., have paid the big names, and ignored the little names. Now with computerized sales checkouts and playlists and internet sales, it is easier to keep track of all sales, so now the little guys are starting to get some royalties. And SOME but not most of the little guys see the net royalty increase as a chance to get paid what they are due, and they see our opposition to increased royalties as just encouraging the mass volume the big labels need.

=========================

!!!SOUNDEXCHANGE MEMBER ALERT !!!
YOUR ROYALTIES AT RISK
FROM CLEAR CHANNEL AND YAHOO!
Clearchannel, AOL, Yahoo!, Microsoft and other big corporations are
aggressively trying to cut webcasting royalties to artists and labels by 70
percent. That means not only gutting the recent decision by the Copyright
Royalty Board (CRB) that set rates at fair market value, but rolling back
rates already paid by webcasters.

We need you to write to your Senators and Representatives in Congress
immediately.

Click here
<http://www.magnetmail1.net/ls.cfm?r=51892103&sid=2274891&m=309435&u=SoundEx
&s=http://capwiz.com/soundexchange/issues/alert/?alertid=9500831&PROCESS=Tak
e+Action>
to let Congress know you are outraged by this attempted big
corporate money-grab at your expense.

[snip, snip, snip]

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I see those little guys as puppets to the big guys here.

[breambob]

A very interesting topic, and dear to my heart. I love OZ in the background while surfing, just as I loved it when I lived in NO. It's hurting a lot of internet radio streams.
KBON has gone subscription on some content. A big blow to us that love the Acadian and Zydeco.
Hurting the college radios too. Can anyone get WTUL or KLSU streams now?
These used to be way up top for alt college stations...

As for royalties to the content owners, I think that's a good idea. But practically how can this be done on the Internet? We're talking about massive intervention into a wide open space. Weird.
Everything is available on the Internet, this will not change, but some folks might be caught up in regulatory BS, and go out of business.
Oppose these restrictions and donate to public radio and TV (WWOZ first).

[Corona]

Bump, Trombone Shorty, Kermit Ruffins and others are backing this. www.savenetradio.org
Shamarr Allen played with the Hot 8 at the Sound Cafe in the Bywater during fest. They were featuring savenetradio that night. I bought the shirt they were selling. The crap the corporate azzholes are trying to pull here is too much :(

[bywterbro]

sound cafe has done alot for the neighborhood, as well as the whole city..
heres a good little article...

Meet and Greet the NOPD

Posted Apr 5th 2007 4:16PM by Amanda Anderson
Filed under: Out and about, City life

Just got wind of a Meet-and-Greet with concerned residents and the NOPD--happening in just a few hours, from 5-7 this evening at Sound Cafe (corner of Charters and Port in the Faubourg Marigny.)

As you may know, the Sound Cafe is not only the quietest coffee shop in the city, ironically enough, but also the home base of the Silence Is Violence crew. You may remember the Silence Is Violence folks from the big old crime march they helped organize back in January. They've kept their momentum up this spring by hosting Youth Music Clinics, watching the courts, and also sponsoring City Walks through different neighborhoods on Sunday evenings.

The City Walks are based on the logic that not as many crimes happen when a big group of people is marching down the street. Not a bad idea. Last Sunday they walked through Mid-City to the Parkway Bakery & Tavern with the Rebirth Brass Band, of which I caught the very end. The "very end," of course, is watching the Rebirth smoke cigarettes out by their car. Due to the Easter holiday, there's no Walk this week, but Silence Is Violence plans to pick up where they left off, starting their Walk from the Parkway a week from Sunday at 7 pm.

But back to the Meet-and-Greet. If you've ever wanted to get to know some cops personally (so they might actually protect your block,) this is your big chance, Fifth Districteers. I'm talking to you hipsters and gentrifiers out in there in the Marigny and Bywater. Nothing like having a cop for a buddy to keep the criminals away. And ladies, there's nothing like a man in a uniform -- is there anything sexier than a gun?

If you're not in the Fifth District, don't despair. Silence Is Violence is more than happy to help you organize your own police meet-and-greet. Just email them at SpeakUp@silenceisviolence.org.

But you downtowners, go ahead and check it out. They might even have free donuts and coffee. I'm sure they're luring those cops in with something sweet.

[Zydekitten]

Shamarr Allen played with the Hot 8 at the Sound Cafe in the Bywater during fest. They were featuring savenetradio that night. I bought the shirt they were selling. The crap the corporate azzholes are trying to pull here is too much :(
Oh, for reals??!!!

I wish I'd known about that, as I was staying only a five minute bike ride from there and would have loved to have been there - DAMN!! :(

[Corona]

sound cafe has done alot for the neighborhood, as well as the whole city..
heres a good little article...

Meet and Greet the NOPD

Posted Apr 5th 2007 4:16PM by Amanda Anderson
Filed under: Out and about, City life

Just got wind of a Meet-and-Greet with concerned residents and the NOPD--happening in just a few hours, from 5-7 this evening at Sound Cafe (corner of Charters and Port in the Faubourg Marigny.)

As you may know, the Sound Cafe is not only the quietest coffee shop in the city, ironically enough, but also the home base of the Silence Is Violence crew. You may remember the Silence Is Violence folks from the big old crime march they helped organize back in January. They've kept their momentum up this spring by hosting Youth Music Clinics, watching the courts, and also sponsoring City Walks through different neighborhoods on Sunday evenings.

The City Walks are based on the logic that not as many crimes happen when a big group of people is marching down the street. Not a bad idea. Last Sunday they walked through Mid-City to the Parkway Bakery & Tavern with the Rebirth Brass Band, of which I caught the very end. The "very end," of course, is watching the Rebirth smoke cigarettes out by their car. Due to the Easter holiday, there's no Walk this week, but Silence Is Violence plans to pick up where they left off, starting their Walk from the Parkway a week from Sunday at 7 pm.

But back to the Meet-and-Greet. If you've ever wanted to get to know some cops personally (so they might actually protect your block,) this is your big chance, Fifth Districteers. I'm talking to you hipsters and gentrifiers out in there in the Marigny and Bywater. Nothing like having a cop for a buddy to keep the criminals away. And ladies, there's nothing like a man in a uniform -- is there anything sexier than a gun?

If you're not in the Fifth District, don't despair. Silence Is Violence is more than happy to help you organize your own police meet-and-greet. Just email them at SpeakUp@silenceisviolence.org.

But you downtowners, go ahead and check it out. They might even have free donuts and coffee. I'm sure they're luring those cops in with something sweet.
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q242/coronaluver/ShamarratSoundCafe.jpg

I really, really enjoyed myself at the Sound Cafe. What a great place! Coffee's were awesome (we needed some by wed. in between) and they had a BBQ outside and we got awesome ribs, chicken, mac and cheese, pot salad, coleslaw and bread....all you wanted for $8! The Hot 8 and Shamarr did 2 sets and little DJ Shavers did a solo on his drum. It was a pretty special night ::)

[Corona]

Oh, for reals??!!!

I wish I'd known about that, as I was staying only a five minute bike ride from there and would have loved to have been there - DAMN!! :(
oh kitten so sorry.....Shamarr called us at the last minute to say they were playing and we scooted down there to check it out. It was packed but we sat on fest chairs on the sidewalk and watched through those big awesome windows :)

[bywterbro]

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q242/coronaluver/ShamarratSoundCafe.jpg

I really, really enjoyed myself at the Sound Cafe. What a great place! Coffee's were awesome (we needed some by wed. in between) and they had a BBQ outside and we got awesome ribs, chicken, mac and cheese, pot salad, coleslaw and bread....all you wanted for $8! The Hot 8 and Shamarr did 2 sets and little DJ Shavers did a solo on his drum. It was a pretty special night ::)

yea...its a cool place...they have regular brass band nites there during the year,
and theres a cool little book store next store....glad yall discovered it...

[Zydekitten]

Cheese and crackers!!!! (hitting self upside head) :mad:

Well hopefully, it was on a night when I was out and about somewhere else (that way I won't feel so badly about missing this) . . . ;)

[Corona]

yea...its a cool place...they have regular brass band nites there during the year,
and theres a cool little book store next store....glad yall discovered it...
me too, I'll be back for sure. Are there regular brass band nights or just random?

[bywterbro]

i think they were always on either tues. or wed. nites....but they were random
and alot of times the only way to find out is to call, or check out their
bulleting board for a flyer announcing the event...
its one of the many reasons i love nawlins...
RAndom and Raucus to the max...

[breambob]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/05/15/financial/f161122D77.DTL

[festivalgirl]

Royalties are of course the issue here. A "landline" station already pays royalties and opts to stream. A solely internet radio station does not pay royalties.

Unfortunately, this requires a thinking person in Washington to separate the two. Don't double dip on OZ and let true Internet Radio pay their fair share.

Where's Harry Shearer (Mr. NPR)???

[AtPontchartrain]

Royalties are of course the issue here. A "landline" station already pays royalties and opts to stream. A solely internet radio station does not pay royalties.

Unfortunately, this requires a thinking person in Washington to separate the two. Don't double dip on OZ and let true Internet Radio pay their fair share.

Where's Harry Shearer (Mr. NPR)???

Broadcast stations still have to pay for net streaming rights. One attorney told me that the RIAA contract with NPR and Pacifica stations (currently under renegotiation) MAY allow them to stream and then to archive the shows for no more than 2 weeks. Another thought archiving (in effect, podcasting) was NOT allowed under the contract. So, station policies are dependent on how much faith they have in their attorney!! Either way, those NPR/Pacifica stations pay a separate webcasting fee, negotiated to be lower than that of individual stations. Standalone stations like 'OZ don't have the same bargaining power, and the webcasting can be considerably more expensive. Right now the agreement actually prohibits listeners subscriptions just to hear the webcasts ... but I think that will have to change.

Harry Shearer's most recent column (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/harry-shearer/new-orleans-diary-catchi_b_48688.html) is not on net radio, but is on NO, Jazzfest, the Road Home, a visit to Touro Hospital, and last but not least, Formosan termites. Now that's coverage!

[AtPontchartrain]

The recent ruling by the Copyright Royalty Board (CRB) exposes public radio stations that stream their musical content to huge increases in royalty payments and threatens to drastically curtail the programming diversity found on public broadcasting websites. This decision treats public broadcasters the same as commercial entities and saddles public radio stations with inappropriate and unachievable requirements.

Additionally, because the CRB's decision requires public radio stations to pay royalties on a per song/per listener basis, it directly contradicts public radio's public service obligations and mission. In a very direct way, the CRB decision penalizes public radio stations for their service to the public. The more of the American population we reach, the larger the royalty payments.....

http://www.tellthempublicmatters.org/radio.html

[McGregor]

Sounds like possibly a step in the right direction but I'm still not really sure what the effects will be
Music Group Offers Some Web Radio Sites a Break

By Mike Musgrove
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, May 23, 2007; Page D02

Small Internet radio stations were offered a break yesterday, when a recording industry group offered to reduce the royalties it collects for music played online.

Web radio stations are facing new and higher royalty fees starting in July, but many have protested that the higher fees -- triple current rates -- would put them out of business. Fans of online music stations are concerned that the fee increase would wipe out a nascent Web broadcasting industry that is exposing listeners to a wide range of music that is not often heard on terrestrial radio.

The fees were instituted by a panel of judges appointed by the librarian of Congress, at a rate recommended by SoundExchange, which collects online royalties for the music industry. Yesterday, SoundExchange offered to let broadcasters with less than $1.2 million in annual revenue pay a reduced rate.

"There's a sense in the music community and in Congress that small webcasters need more time to develop their businesses," John L. Simson, executive director of SoundExchange, said in a written statement. "We look at it as artists and labels doing their part to help small operators get a stronger foothold."

Under the SoundExchange offer, small webcasters would pay 10 percent of all gross revenue up to $250,000 and 12 percent of all gross revenue above that amount.

Michael Huppe, SoundExchange's general counsel, said the organization was influenced by a letter it received on Friday, co-signed by Reps. Howard L. Berman (D-Calif.) and Howard Coble (R-N.C.), urging SoundExchange to "initiate good faith private negotiations." Berman is chairman of the House Judiciary subcommittee on courts, the Internet and intellectual property.

Pandora and Live365, two Web radio companies that have been lobbying Congress to get the new fees overturned, would be excluded, because their revenues exceed $1.2 million .

Jonathan Potter, executive director of the Digital Media Association, a trade group, said yesterday that he did not see how SoundExchange's offer would help build a thriving Web radio industry.

"Pandora has under a hundred employees, Live365 has 35. Under any definition of the word, they're small businesses, and yet they don't qualify," Potter said. "I don't see why SoundExchange sees this as having a positive impact on the industry."