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Carolina Beadhead
11-07-2006, 04:25 PM
Welcome to the 2008 First-timers' Info Thread


Every year we see questions asked that the official FAQ's don't seem to cover so I've attempted to consolidate some of the answers and advice in this thread for the first-timers to Jazz Fest and to this board.
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Where to Find Info

Here are some links to help you get started:

(http://www.nojazzfest.com/special/faq.html)Be sure to read the official Jazz Fest FAQ's on the home page under Info. It will give you the official info, such as how to buy tickets*, how to work/volunteer at Jazz Fest, etc. Take special note of [/URL]What can I bring to Fest? Here's where you find the information on what's allowed/not allowed into the fairgrounds.

*Note: You will need one ticket per day for entry on to the grounds. Tickets are sold as 1st weekend tickets or 2nd weekend tickets or Thursday tickets. For example, if you plan on attending all 4 days of 2nd weekend, you will need to purchase 3 - 2nd weekend tickets and 1 Thursday ticket.

[URL="http://www.jazzfestgrids.com/"]http://www.jazzfestgrids.com/ (http://www.nojazzfest.com/special/faq_012.html) - Here you will find the listing of performances at clubs and special promotions (Wednesday at the Square, In-stores, etc.) that are scheduled around town during the Fest and Days Between. These are affectionally known as The Nearly World Famous Neen/Swag/Chrisjoseph/Dank Grids.

http://www.swagland.com/ (http://www.swagland.com/) - This is the link to Swagland and Swag's Jazz Fest FAQ's, better know around here as "The Jazz Fest Virign's Bible". It will answer most, if not all, of the general questions you might have... and some you haven't thought of yet.

And while you're there, check out his Collected Memoirs (http://www.swagland.com/jazzfest/writings.html)and Swag's Jazz Fest Diaries (http://www.swagland.com/jazzfest/diaries.html) links to get a feel for the event.

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Terms you should know on this board:

Cubes - The final, official schedule of performers with stage location and times released late March/early April. Our increasingly frequent "When are the cubes coming out?" chant begins in earnest sometime around... January. They also aggravate the reoccuring symptoms of FOMS (Fear of Missing Something).

Grids - The unofficial compliation of non-Jazz Fest daytime/nightime/club performance schedules, which for a number of years were compiled by the "nearly famous" Miss Neen, followed by Swag, our resident All-Things-Jazz-Fest Guru, who handed it off to the unflappable Chrisjoseph and, for '07 & '08, by the Leave-No-Stone-Unturned Dankbass.

Threadhead - The nickname adopted by the regular posters. As fest gets closer and you find that you can't get anything done because you can't leave the board... YOU are a THREADHEAD.

FOMS - The Fear Of Missing Something - The release of the cubes bring on our annual bout of post-cube depression when we realize that we can't be in 2... or 4... places at once. It afflicts every festgoer at some time or the other. If the cubes don't trigger it, the grids will.

freestyledesign or none - Refers to our favorite thread from the old board, circa 2002... our infamous, anonymous Steve-Madden-lovin' poster who has been the star of the board since her single post during the 2002 season. (See the imported thread here: http://www.nojazzfest.com/chat/showthread.php?t=5 (http://www.nojazzfest.com/chat/showthread.php?t=5))

Board Meeting - In the weeks leading up to Jazz Fest, we set days and times for the posters from this board to gather on the grounds - in previous years the location has behind Ms. Lena and the Zulu Diamond Cutters' beer tent. There will be times set for each meeting and, usually, will occur on more than one day each weekend. However, historically, the first scheduled meeting of the weekend will be the one with the largest attendance of Threadheads. Everyone's invited and, no, we don't all know each other. :)

Lagniappes - (LAN-yaps - a little something extra) - It is tradition among some festers to bring small items, such as buttons, keychains, bandanas, or novelties to give away as souveniers to the people they meet on the grounds. It is not a Threadhead/Jazz Fest attendee requirement - entirely your choice.

Totems/Flags - Totems/Flags are a tradition a Jazz Fest. They are used as a landmark to identify a group's gathering place. Be aware that metal poles are not allowed nor is pounding/staking anything into the ground. Most people have devised ways of lashing their flagpoles to chairs, etc. or other creative means of stabilization.

Threadhead Patry: This year will mark the 4rd Annual Threadhead Patry and is tentatively scheduled for the Tuesday between. Past Patries included great food, drink and performances by The Radiators, Kermit Ruffins, Papa Grows Funk, Rebirth and Paul Sancez & John Boutte. To top it all off, with the help of our fine posters/participants, in '07 we raised $17,000+ for the New Orleans Musicians Clinic through donations, T-shirt sales, an extremely successful online raffle/auction plus the profits from the event.

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Misc. Information

What Needs to Be in Your Jazz Fest Bag?

The bare neccesities: Hat, sunglasses, sunscreen, comfortable walking shoes, money.

You also may want to bring a a chair/stool/blanket, umbrella (NOT beach/pole type), small softsided cooler, backpack, camera (not video) and lagniappes to give away as souveniers.

Here's a post from 2003 to help you think about what else you might want/need:

Posted 2/17/03 by festnut:

My "essentials" bag carries a variety of items:

Wet Ones - There are very few places to wash the grime off your hands from dirty money, the ground, the potty, greasy food, etc.

Ziplock bags, various sizes - These pack in your bag without taking any room. Good for left over food, such as chocolate covered strawberries, to put in your ice bag for later. Keeps your camera dry, holds miscellaneous "little" items, etc.

Soft-sided ice chest - Buy a bag or two of ice beforehand and transfer the ice to large zip locks. Once inside, buy as many of your drinks at one time as will fit to keep you from wasting time standing in line! As the ice melts you have drinking water to refill the $2 bottle you bought earlier. Also keeps the chunk ice from the beer stands separate from the good ice.

Garbage bags - Another item that takes practically no space. If it rained during the night or there was a fog or heavy dew, the ground will be damp (also saturated with yesterday's leftovers, spilled drinks, etc). If you're not carrying a chair or blanket, this works as good ground cover (so does a cheap shower curtain liner). An extra one in your bag works as a ra*n poncho in a pinch or as a place to stuff your backpack and camera if it does do that dreaded "ra*n" thing.

Sunscreen and SFP lip balm - Everytime you wipe your brow or neck, lay on the ground, sit in a chair, drink or eat, you are wiping it off. REAPPLY constantly!

Ladies: Toilet Tissue - A little in a small zip lock goes a long way late in the day!

Film - Yes, they sell it there. No, I don't want to pay their price. Bring extra... and extra batteries for your camera, too.

There are firstaid tents on the fairground. But if you're prone to rashes from redbugs, hay, fertilizer, etc., bring some anti-itch stuff. Don't forget your allergy meds, you'll be in grass and dust all day. Think of it as going camping--almost.

I'm sure I'll think of more and I know others will. Bon Fete!
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Babies at Fest Advice

Posted 3/20/03 by bostonian:

My 3-year-old daughter will be attending her 4th Fest this year (when she was 7-months, 19-months, 2-years, and now 3-years old). My wife and I have found bringing a baby to be very doable if you plan it right. Things to consider are:

(1) Bring a small shade tent. Check the Fest rules for what is permitted, but we've been allowed to bring one each year. Make sure that it provides good shade, but also allows air to circulate freely. Otherwise it can get stifling hot.

(2) Consider paying the [money] to park inside the Fest gates. That way, you can pack as much extra supplies as you want in the car, and have access to them during the Fest.

(3) Always, always, always have plenty of water easily accessible, and make sure that you child is drinking plenty of it.

(4) Sign in at the kids area, which supplies identification tags and contact info for the kids to wear.

(5) If the child is walking, consider a wrist band that connects you to your child. It is far less demoralizing then a leash for your kid, but achieves the same result.

(6) Even if your child is a little too old for the stroller, bring it anyway. It's a good way to haul around all the stuff you'll want to have with you.

(7) Don't plan on moving around as much as you did before you had kids. My wife and I set up a "home base" with a blanket and our shade tent (near the rear so to be courteous to others). We often will take turns leaving to explore other areas, but mostly either stay close to home or wander over to the kids area (which my daughter loves).


Even though there are a lot of things to think about in planning to bring a child to Fest, I believe strongly, based on my own experience, that if you plan well, you absolutely can have a great time at Fest with a child of any age.
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I will add to this post as info becomes available or I am alerted to other resources. Feel free to post any additional questions to the board. There are a LOT of fest vets that frequent here and are very willing to pass on their knowledge and love of Fest!

Amy Winette
11-07-2006, 07:14 PM
Can this one get a sticky?

peteup
11-08-2006, 04:07 AM
CBH, as always, you are the font of all wisdom. As a fest virgin (hehehehe...luv that term, I feel 15 all over again) I'll be poring over this thread right up to April '07.

Carolina Beadhead
11-08-2006, 08:11 AM
CBH, as always, you are the font of all wisdom. As a fest virgin (hehehehe...luv that term, I feel 15 all over again) I'll be poring over this thread right up to April '07.

Peteup, I keep forgeting that you are a fest virgin. It seems like you've been around forever. I think by now you know as much as the rest of us. You've done your book work, you just need the practicum to graduate to Vet status. :D

chicagomike
11-09-2006, 04:18 PM
Ok, this may not be popular but I feel there should be a limited amount of JF planning, tricks, secrets, hints, etc. given out to new people. I swear I am not being mean. I just think that one of the hidden pleasures of Jazzfest for a first timer, is to not have a clue whats happening and the great feeling of discovery at the wonders of it all. Dont get me wrong, the information found here is second to none. STELLAR stuff. I just thought I would throw an alternative view out there...Makes for some interesting insight.

ozzie
11-09-2006, 04:31 PM
Ok, this may not be popular but I feel there should be a limited amount of JF planning, tricks, secrets, hints, etc. given out to new people. I swear I am not being mean. I just think that one of the hidden pleasures of Jazzfest for a first timer, is to not have a clue whats happening and the great feeling of discovery at the wonders of it all. Dont get me wrong, the information found here is second to none. STELLAR stuff. I just thought I would throw an alternative view out there...Makes for some interesting insight.

Yeah, but all the planning and discovering the tricks, secrets, hints, etc., is so much fun! Then, if you're like us, you can't remember if it was this club or that restaurant, tevos or keens, blah, blah, blah... and you get off the plane without a bloody clue anyway!

Absolutely, definitely the best thing is knowing you have friends there that you haven't met yet, and knowing these good threadhead folk will lend the hand of experience if you need it. :D

Amy Winette
11-09-2006, 04:33 PM
Nah, I think if they come here and join the community they should get the tricks. I fested for 7 years without the board, happy with one weekend, leaving Sunday morning, oblivious to many of the night shows and sometimes only spending a few hours a day at fest (???) It was like getting 5% of the experience and I think everyone deserves 110%!

Amy Winette
11-09-2006, 04:35 PM
Oh, and this will be my 10th year and I STILL discover new and wonderful things each time. The best thing about this board is the community. Walking around the fairgrounds and seeing people you KNOW everywhere! It's a beautiful thing and the community only gets better when we add more people to it :)

chicagomike
11-09-2006, 04:41 PM
Now I am not advocating not having a first timer info area. But you veterans should leave a wee bit of mystery for the uninitiated....Just a teeny weeny bit. ;)

chicagomike
11-09-2006, 04:53 PM
Amy hit the nail on the head when she mentions knowing people all over the fest. I certainly believe that meeting new interesting people (most of who have very good taste in music). One of the greatest things I love is seeing friends I have made over the years.

Carolina Beadhead
11-09-2006, 05:05 PM
Now I am not advocating not having a first timer info area. But you veterans should leave a wee bit of mystery for the uninitiated....Just a teeny weeny bit. ;)

I've decided there's NO WAY to school the uninitiated entirely on Jazz Fest. There's just too many parts to it. Until you experience it for yourself you just can't believe it's what everybody says it is...

Amy Winette
11-09-2006, 05:13 PM
I know there are a ton of things I still don't know and probably never will. Every year just keeps getting better and better. How is that possible??

chicagomike
11-09-2006, 05:27 PM
It would be kinda boring if it was the same ol' thing....Well actually..even if it was the same ol' thing it would be better then about 99% of everything else.. However, I am always amazed at all the new things I discover every year.... At JF, in N.O. and around the state of Louisiana as well.

Amy Winette
11-09-2006, 05:33 PM
I know, huh? There is more music during the day and at night than you could possibly ever see. And with all the music, you don't have a chance to get to all the fabulous restaurants and other destinations you might like to see. I don't know how people that live in NOLA work . . . Where do they find the time?? :)

jhjpotter
11-10-2006, 12:33 PM
I think Swag says it best on one of the t-shirts available through swagland.com when he says, "Judge your Jazzfest not by the greatness of what you see, but by the greatness of what you have to skip in order to see it."
(http://www.cafepress.com/swagsjazzfestq2)

BigDag
11-10-2006, 01:38 PM
That quote from Swag is SO true!

I think we should give the virgins as much information as they want. Because it doesn't matter how much you know about the Fest before you arrive for the first time, you won't truly "get it" until you get there and experience it for yourself. And after that, your life is never the same.

chicagomike
11-10-2006, 02:04 PM
Good points all. But I still think new folks should kinda get thrown into the mix without too many expectations... It seems like yesterday (actually 1992) when I entered a whole new world and I am damn happy I did !

dumbtourist
11-10-2006, 09:43 PM
That quote from Swag is SO true!

I think we should give the virgins as much information as they want. Because it doesn't matter how much you know about the Fest before you arrive for the first time, you won't truly "get it" until you get there and experience it for yourself. And after that, your life is never the same.

You go, BigDag! I was a virgin last year...spent many hours on this bored pre-planning and asking questions. Without that knowledge, I would have been lost and not have had nearly as good a time. Did I learn it all??? Hell no. And I know there's so much more. But this bored provides an invaluable service to newbies (and vets as well). Besides, it also is a wonderful marketing tool for JF!! Keep up the good work, TH's!!!!!!!

LaTiDa
11-27-2006, 01:37 AM
Bringing a whole krewe of virgins with us this year... been setting them up with some great cds and this post is getting e-mailed right to them.

.... But Chicagomike is right... something to be said for a little mystery and learning from experience... it's what made the first year so much fun and preparing for the next three an 11 and a half month event!

...Also, Chicagomike is partially right about another thing and I will take liberty to amend it...

ALL FIREFIGHTERS DESERVE A RAISE!

PaulC
12-02-2006, 08:15 PM
in a world we can respect,.. firefighters,.. policeman,.. nurses,.. teachers,.. and others who serve the real and essential needs of society,.. who perform their jobs in a way that is widely respected,.. deserve at least double their pay...... And quadrupal+ their social standing...

For God's sake,.. down with the Trumps, Ms. Hilton, and their likes,.. and up with those who deserve real praise and respect...

Corona
12-05-2006, 04:13 PM
CBH, as always, you are the font of all wisdom. As a fest virgin (hehehehe...luv that term, I feel 15 all over again) I'll be poring over this thread right up to April '07.
no shit? you're a fest virgin? That's gonna be so cool pete!!!

peteup
12-06-2006, 07:37 AM
no shit? you're a fest virgin? That's gonna be so cool pete!!!

Corona, I won't let myself believe I'm actually going to be there until I walk thru the gate first Friday and kiss the ground. Hallelujah!!!

ozzie
12-06-2006, 07:44 AM
Hey Peteup... you'll get there mate!

Hope you're a long ways away from the fires. Bad stuff.

peteup
12-06-2006, 07:56 AM
Cheers Oz. Yeah, it's gonna happen! Anyway, it was really weird yesterday morning - hazy, yellow sun and the smell of smoke. We're on the edge of the Dividing Range and it's all forest between us and the fires which are still 100+ k's (oops, sorry miles) away. Need rain.

ozzie
12-06-2006, 08:01 AM
Crap! I think we're the only joint in Oz that's drought free. R@^ned all through our s'posed to be dry winter... sending a rain dance your way.

Heading down your way next w'end... Mornington Peninsula. Only other time I've been in Vic it was way too cold to do anything... guessing that won't be a problem this time around. Stay safe.

peteup
12-06-2006, 08:17 AM
Crap! I think we're the only joint in Oz that's drought free. R@^ned all through our s'posed to be dry winter... sending a rain dance your way

Now that's real good voodoo. Please everybody, redirect all r*** deep deep down under.

Enjoy the peninsula Oz, the weather should be fine. There's a really good little alt-country fest there in mid-Jan at Red Hill, the Harvest Festival. Mary Gauthier's playing this year along with a few others. Great home-brewed beer as well.

ozzie
12-06-2006, 08:26 AM
Corona, I won't let myself believe I'm actually going to be there until I walk thru the gate first Friday and kiss the ground. Hallelujah!!!

Careful... Corona's like the fest ground kissing queen! Think it's now mandatory, and not just for newbies.

Amy Winette
12-06-2006, 02:00 PM
You know, I committed to doing this last year and don't know if I ever actually did. Will have to this year I guess . . .

Belle
01-20-2007, 02:19 PM
Nah, I think if they come here and join the community they should get the tricks. I fested for 7 years without the board, happy with one weekend, leaving Sunday morning, oblivious to many of the night shows and sometimes only spending a few hours a day at fest (???) It was like getting 5% of the experience and I think everyone deserves 110%!

As you say I suffer from FOMS!! Just sitting here reading and reading. I should be cleaning!!! In laws tomorrow Yikes!!!

I am so excited. Just got tickets for the Radiators Friday 4/27 at Southport Hall thanks to the links and reading. Thanks for all you regulars do, maybe I will say in a few years that I never missed one.

Belle

Mardigrasbaby35
01-20-2007, 02:31 PM
As you say I suffer from FOMS!! Just sitting here reading and reading. I should be cleaning!!! In laws tomorrow Yikes!!!

I am so excited. Just got tickets for the Radiators Friday 4/27 at Southport Hall thanks to the links and reading. Thanks for all you regulars do, maybe I will say in a few years that I never missed one.

Belle
MAYBE Bella????? I'm betting on DEFINITELY :D

Amy Winette
01-20-2007, 03:03 PM
That's great Belle! :)

dumbtourist
01-20-2007, 08:40 PM
That's great Belle! :)

What....that her in-laws are coming tomorrow?????

Amy Winette
01-20-2007, 10:32 PM
Nay, that's she's excited for and loving fest ;)

I love MY inlaws though, I'm happy when they come visit :)

dumbtourist
01-20-2007, 10:38 PM
Nay, that's she's excited for and loving fest ;)

I love MY inlaws though, I'm happy when they come visit :)

I had a great relationship with mine as well...wish they were still living :(

Belle
01-21-2007, 05:50 PM
What....that her in-laws are coming tomorrow?????


It snowed and they didn't want to venture over the mountain. Yippee at least the house is clean!!

Hugs
Belle

cosmo_kid
01-23-2007, 03:30 PM
What are some of the options for flag poles? Last year we decided we needed a flag to mark our party area. I've seen PVC pipe but I'd think the easiest to carry would be one of those ATV antenaes. We're flying into town so transport might be tough. Ideally, I'd be able to purchase something in NO and pick it up when I get there. Any input?

cosmo_kid

Amy Winette
01-23-2007, 04:15 PM
You can't stick anything into the ground so you'll need to be able to anchor to your chairs or some other standing object.

Telescoping wind sock poles work best, you can find plenty on ebay or www.kitesandgarden.com (http://www.kitesandgarden.com) (he used to deliver your pole to you at fest, don't know about anymore). I think some folks have also mentioned a kite shop in NOLA?

rosetree
01-23-2007, 05:44 PM
Here ya go....
Kite Shop-Jackson Square - 0.7 miles E - 542 Saint Peter St, New Orleans, 70116 - (504) 524-0028
Kite Store - 0.8 miles SE - 1 Poydras St, New Orleans, 70130 - (504) 587-7705
Brad & Dellwen Flag-Party-Gift Shop - 1.7 miles S - 2201 Magazine St, New Orleans, 70130 - (504) 527-5211

dumbtourist
01-23-2007, 05:48 PM
Here ya go....
Kite Shop-Jackson Square - 0.7 miles E - 542 Saint Peter St, New Orleans, 70116 - (504) 524-0028
Kite Store - 0.8 miles SE - 1 Poydras St, New Orleans, 70130 - (504) 587-7705
Brad & Dellwen Flag-Party-Gift Shop - 1.7 miles S - 2201 Magazine St, New Orleans, 70130 - (504) 527-5211
I know the Kite Shop at Jackson sells the telescoping poles...very light and well made...about $25 if I remember correctly...in fact, have to order another one....

Mardigrasbaby35
01-23-2007, 05:57 PM
What are some of the options for flag poles? Last year we decided we needed a flag to mark our party area. I've seen PVC pipe but I'd think the easiest to carry would be one of those ATV antenaes. We're flying into town so transport might be tough. Ideally, I'd be able to purchase something in NO and pick it up when I get there. Any input?

cosmo_kid Cosmo, since your Patry Site is also my Patry site, if you give me some instructions on what we need, i'll don't mind scouting ahead since i'm here in NOLa......

stlbarb
01-23-2007, 11:57 PM
and the larger the flag the more it will pull on the pole and the person or object that's holding it. some people don't realize that a 3x5' flag at 6-7 feet off the ground really impedes the view of many. so keep it tall, small, water proof, and fabulously unique. to obtain unique you might want to mix stuff. it can be problem if your friends havent seen you flag and you tell them to meet you under the chicken flag, or favorite sports team flag, or what you thought was an original idea - there may be many of those. (i humbly speak from experience)

stlbarb
01-24-2007, 12:05 AM
i think everyone should know: to wear sensible shoes, put on sunscreen before you leave the house/hotel, bring a $1 rain poncho & more sunscreen to reapply, you can bring water in & you should, all the portapotties are on the track (unless you have a handicap key), remember where you parked or are suppose to meet your friends after fest, right down the address of your hotel, its ok to ask people what they're eating, and 99.3 % of the people at the fest would love to meet you too.
these tips will enable them to enjoy the day as the sweet mysteries of fest unfold.

stlbarb
01-24-2007, 12:09 AM
i used to kiss the ground as soon as i cleared the track on 1st day every year. but its too hard to get back up now - so i gave it up.
old age is not for sissies - heck, i can hardly contend with middle age.

so do it while you can. yes, the ground is dirty - i know about the horses - you can give it an air kiss or just bow to the festival gods.

saturn
01-24-2007, 12:37 AM
its ok to ask people what they're eating, and 99.3 % of the people at the fest would love to meet you too.


True for sure -- I have had total strangers offer me samples off their food plates.

peteup
01-25-2007, 07:39 AM
True for sure -- I have had total strangers offer me samples off their food plates.

Does the same go with beers?

ozzie
01-25-2007, 08:16 AM
Not so sure about that!

Peteup... there's a krewe who park themselves way back at the back of Acura with an Aboriginal flag flying. Of course we went to say gidday. It goes that they have never been to Oz, but someone did and gave them the flag! They've been flying it for years and like it 'cos every aussie foreigner goes up to say howdy. We have bought a boxing kangaroo flag to give them this year... two flags flying has such a nice ring to it! Be sure and go and say cheers to them! Of course if they're not there the Potters may just have to attach it to their Nebraska flag at the opposite end of Acura!

peteup
01-25-2007, 08:44 AM
Not so sure about that!

Peteup... there's a krewe who park themselves way back at the back of Acura with an Aboriginal flag flying. Of course we went to say gidday. It goes that they have never been to Oz, but someone did and gave them the flag! They've been flying it for years and like it 'cos every aussie foreigner goes up to say howdy. We have bought a boxing kangaroo flag to give them this year... two flags flying has such a nice ring to it! Be sure and go and say cheers to them! Of course if they're not there the Potters may just have to attach it to their Nebraska flag at the opposite end of Acura!


Well, absolutely!

saturn
01-25-2007, 08:48 AM
Does the same go with beers?

Yep - I have had strangers give me a beer, just for doing them some tiny favour, such as handing them back something they dropped.

Staxsun
01-25-2007, 11:44 AM
Yep - I have had strangers give me a beer, just for doing them some tiny favour, such as handing them back something they dropped.

I've had strangers give me a beer because I looked like I could use one. I look that way a lot these days.

Amy Winette
01-25-2007, 12:09 PM
Not so sure about that!

Peteup... there's a krewe who park themselves way back at the back of Acura with an Aboriginal flag flying. Of course we went to say gidday. It goes that they have never been to Oz, but someone did and gave them the flag! They've been flying it for years and like it 'cos every aussie foreigner goes up to say howdy. We have bought a boxing kangaroo flag to give them this year... two flags flying has such a nice ring to it! Be sure and go and say cheers to them! Of course if they're not there the Potters may just have to attach it to their Nebraska flag at the opposite end of Acura!

We did have a boxing roo flag one year, brought by Steph for her aussie boyfriend Jay! She's coming this year, turns out it's not his thing (doh!) but she may still bring the flag ;)

funkkjunkie
01-25-2007, 07:59 PM
When I've brought virgins, i've given them all the info they want, which is never all the stuff I offer. crafts, food, cubes, grandstand, night shows, band descriptions--too much for most minds to take in. So the first day, they travel with me. the second day they get a map and a schedule and off they go. They get the info and they get the surprise element.

benmo4
01-25-2007, 11:17 PM
I'm 14 and i'm thinking about getting a pole to mark my spot this year. Any other suggestions or hints on getting a pole you can tell me?

Today what was supposed to not be a great day was immediatly brightented when I read the paper..and the lineup, I can't wait to see Steely Dan!

Carolina Beadhead
01-26-2007, 03:39 PM
I'm 14 and i'm thinking about getting a pole to mark my spot this year. Any other suggestions or hints on getting a pole you can tell me?

Today what was supposed to not be a great day was immediatly brightented when I read the paper..and the lineup, I can't wait to see Steely Dan!

Hi, ben! Welcome to the board!

Poles need to be high enough not to get in the way of the folks around you. They can't be metal and they can't be staked into the ground. It's a good idea to get a pole that can be broken down to manageable sized pieces that can be transported to the fairgrounds.

People have used long cane fishing poles, windsock poles, home-made PVC poles... all kinds of stuff. Most folks figure a way to tie/tape them to a couple of chairs so they don't blow over.

Here's a pic that I took in '04 that might give you some idea of how high they need to be:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/rowdymom81/saturday005.jpg

swag
01-26-2007, 08:53 PM
Good advice from CBH. The bigger your flag, the longer the pole should be (to minimize blocking the view of those behind you). And the bigger flag on the taller pole is also harder to secure. Whatever you come up with, please test it out for an afternoon in your back yard, to make sure it's sturdy enough not to blow over.

You can tie streamers or helium balloons to the top of your pole to increase visibility without increasing weight.

FestNut
04-09-2007, 10:39 AM
Wow! I had forgotten how much info we put out there in 2003 that the 2007 newbies can use! Great thread CBH!

See y'all in a VERY short time!

Bon Fete!

stlbarb
04-10-2007, 11:54 PM
Good advice from CBH. The bigger your flag, the longer the pole should be (to minimize blocking the view of those behind you). And the bigger flag on the taller pole is also harder to secure. Whatever you come up with, please test it out for an afternoon in your back yard, to make sure it's sturdy enough not to blow over.

You can tie streamers or helium balloons to the top of your pole to increase visibility without increasing weight.

bigger is not always better. several small colorflags are just as effective and easier to manage - and easier for the folks behind you to see around.