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ScoopJohnD
03-04-2007, 03:22 PM
Nagin's 1,000 cameras never materialized

Despite promise, only 50 were installed
Saturday, March 03, 2007

By Brendan McCarthy
Staff writer

They've been called extra eyes in the sky, unassailable witnesses, a vital crime-fighting tool.

Four years ago, the Nagin administration unveiled plans to dot the city with crime surveillance cameras -- both to assist detectives and prosecutors in nailing criminals and, more optimistically, as a deterrent to crimes.

But despite repeated pledges, and a slew of mixed messages, the several dozen cameras that now keep watch over the city fall severely short of the hundreds that were promised.

In 2003, while addressing initiatives to halt a rising tide of crime, Mayor Ray Nagin said 1,000 cameras would be installed in the city. The city contract signed at the time called for a first installment of 240. Nagin called them "witnesses that cannot be intimidated" and vowed that 100 would be up and running by October 2003.

It never happened. At the most, 50 cameras were installed across the city, according to the contractor.

The project had lain dormant in Katrina's aftermath when, at a Jan. 9 news conference, Nagin included cameras among a slew of crime-fighting initiatives trotted out in response to public outrage over the recent rash of murders. Nagin said that 50 surveillance cameras would be functioning in the city by week's end, 200 by the end of the year.

Nagin's numbers don't quite jibe with those of the Mayor's Office Of Technology, according to correspondence and records obtained in a public records request.

Mark Kurt, who quit in mid-January as the city's chief technology officer, indicated in e-mails to the camera contractor that the city planned to have a minimum of 155 cameras installed by 2008, and to add another 75 in the following year.

A City Hall spokeswoman did not return calls in time for publication.

Sgt. Joe Narcisse, a spokesman for the New Orleans Police Department, said Thursday that 80 cameras are up and operating in the city. Police sources and public records, however, put the number of functioning cameras at 51, including cameras that were fixed last week.

Nagin administration officials did not respond to requests for comment Friday.

For Irish Channel resident Chris Horrell, 37, the delays in implementing the crime camera contract came to a head in October when a man was fatally shot under a broken camera in his neighborhood, at the intersection of Annunciation Street and Washington Avenue. Another man was shot at the same intersection several weeks later. The camera remained broken last week.

"You hear the mayor talk over and over again about how all these cameras are up in the hot spots, but it's just not true," said Horrell, a marine archaeologist who moved to New Orleans about three years ago.

"They promised time and again that the cameras would be up and running. It's bull -- -- . . . . All we get is empty promises," said Horrell, whose repeated requests to review public records regarding the crime cameras have been denied by City Hall.

Horrell met recently with police officers and other concerned citizens.

"The police want these cameras. We want the cameras. Everyone does," he said. "Yet we are still waiting. It's a testament to how the city works with its citizens."

City Council member Stacy Head shares Horrell's frustration.

"We are trying not to interfere, micromanage the contract," said Carla Parker, Head's legislative aide, "but we want these cameras up . . . We tried playing nice guy in July, August, September. Then we got to a point where it was seriously, guys, what is the problem?

"The department head says one thing, the contractor says another, that's been the way it is for the last six months," Parker said.

Late last year Head e-mailed Kurt and the subcontractor, pleading for the pair to move forward with the cameras promised for her district, according to e-mails obtained in a public records request.

At a public hearing in early February, Head said she was given even more promises. Still, little has changed.

"There is a lot of fights and disputes going back and forth," she said. "I don't care, I just want this to get done. It's been funded, let's get it done."

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Staff writer Gordon Russell contributed to this report. Brendan McCarthy can be reached at bmccarthy@timespicayune.com or (504) 826-3301.

CLOUDY VISION
A vaunted program to place crime cameras around the city has stalled amid questions that a new contract was steered to a political insider.
Saturday, March 03, 2007
http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-7/1172902991292410.xml&coll=1

Tune in next month and lets see what happens with crime lab that was funded with fed money and two weeks ago promised to be up and running in 60 days.

I know it's hard for all of you but PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS MAN OFF THE HOOK!!!

pokerchick66
03-04-2007, 03:33 PM
Recall, recall!

steeleye
03-04-2007, 06:02 PM
In the history of mankind...has there ever been a city and it's citizens so underserved by all of it's elected officials, local, state and federal? I can't think of one and it pis-es me off to no end.

Corona
03-04-2007, 06:15 PM
In the history of mankind...has there ever been a city and it's citizens so underserved by all of it's elected officials, local, state and federal? I can't think of one and it pis-es me off to no end.
shit, I hear ya steeleye...it truly makes me sick :(

Orleansnj
03-04-2007, 06:20 PM
In the history of mankind...has there ever been a city and it's citizens so underserved by all of it's elected officials, local, state and federal? I can't think of one and it pis-es me off to no end.

the only thing that comes close is Newark - and that might be on the mend now since there is a new mayor for the first time in three decades?

But the answer is no - new orleanians are woefully underserved by their elected officials.

ScoopJohnD
03-04-2007, 06:41 PM
Here's Nagin in a nutshell........

A City Hall spokeswoman did not return calls in time for publication.

Nagin administration officials did not respond to requests for comment Friday.

It pisses me off as well. It's like he lives in his own little world and thinks as long as only New Orleans knows about it he doesn't have to do anything. Is it coincidence that the only time there is any kind of action is when the national media focuses it's glare on him and his city. It's why I keep posting these things, hoping that for everyone that posts something, there are many, many more reading them and hopefully doing something. I sent these two articles and a few more to the NY Times and NBC Nightly News today cause I'm just sick of it and I'm hoping they put the light right on him. I don't know what else to do. He's been using the feds failure (and it WAS a failure) in the beginning for two years now and it's getting real tired, real fast. He needs to provide answers and soon.

Orleansnj
03-04-2007, 06:43 PM
he is referred to by some in our family as ' that no good so-n-so' - which is about as close to cursing as it gets with my M-I-L.

ScoopJohnD
03-04-2007, 06:58 PM
he is referred to by some in our family as ' that no good so-n-so' - which is about as close to cursing as it gets with my M-I-L.

You know I think that says volumes. It doesn't seem like much of reaction on the surface, but for your in-laws my guess is that is true anger or at least disappointment.

ScoopJohnD
03-05-2007, 08:26 AM
Movin this back so our weekday visitors may be inspired to raise their voices and plead for action.

Papins
03-05-2007, 09:41 AM
I'm sure he'll blame it on the federal government...

Q: Why should Ray Nagin be Grey Line tour guide?

A: 'Cause he's so good at finger pointing

NYMAMA
03-05-2007, 10:07 AM
I'm sure he'll blame it on the federal government...

Q: Why should Ray Nagin be Grey Line tour guide?

A: 'Cause he's so good at finger pointing

Good one Papins LOL

mightyradgumbo
03-05-2007, 12:40 PM
Well, he WAS re-elected...so if he is doing such a crappy job I would have to defer to chipchopchick's comments regarding a recall election. That is one of the problems with the "p" word these days. We have these half-azz leaders doing as they please and yet we do not feel compelled to kick them to the curb with the proper constitutional powers. "When the followers lead, the leaders will follow."

festivalgirl
03-05-2007, 04:42 PM
Only New Orleanians canhelp themselves locally. While Nagin is disgaceful, he was re-elected. I've always been shocked that there was absolutely no question about the result of the election. Is anyone loacl calling for a recall? Is there anyone else who really wants to do the job? (no sarcasm, I am really curious).

Moon
03-06-2007, 11:03 AM
In the history of mankind...has there ever been a city and it's citizens so underserved by all of it's elected officials, local, state and federal? I can't think of one and it pis-es me off to no end.


While this is very true, anyone expecting results from elected officials hasn't been paying close attention for some time. Let's not lose track of the fact that Ray was re-elected after Katrina. Now I saw one of the debates and believe me, they could have done worse.

Until we have a more informed electorate and a better class of candidates to chose from, I'm afraid were all on are own.

ScoopJohnD
03-07-2007, 09:57 PM
Only New Orleanians canhelp themselves locally. While Nagin is disgaceful, he was re-elected. I've always been shocked that there was absolutely no question about the result of the election. Is anyone loacl calling for a recall? Is there anyone else who really wants to do the job? (no sarcasm, I am really curious).

This isn't about a recall for me, this is about getting the man to do the job he was elected to do, and serve the people he is supposed to serve. And if you think it only a local responsibility to get him to do that you are sadly mistaken. Simply put the face, the impression the people of this country get of New Orleans is the face of Ray Nagin. We see the struggles and we know the heart of the people and we feel for them, but when we question why, it's not directed to the citizens, it's directed to the leaders. We don't ask the citizens why the problems continue, we ask City Hall. We ask them to do their job, because they want us to help their city. We write our Senators and Congressmen, our newspapers and our networks plead the case, ask them to help, hoping City leaders see the light and change their ways. But I guarantee you there are others who look at city leaders first, see nothing and THEN write their Senators and Congressman saying they DON'T want to see their tax money going to waste on that type of leadership. And THAT is why it's not just up to the locals to get action. It is up to ALL who care about this city to do whatever we can to get this man to realize that A COUNTRY is watching what he does and forming opinions about supporting help for New Orleans BASED ON HIS LEADERSHIP AND HIS VISION.

mightyradgumbo
03-07-2007, 10:48 PM
YYR to a large extent Scoop. It is necessary to put pressure on our national leaders. However, when a person is sworn in to lead they should lead. If they are not going to do the job then let's get somebody in to do it. I agree that we should put the pressure on the one elected and the ones elected in our area to help that pressure.
New Orleans, much against the beliefs of many politicos, has and remains a national issue. So to that extent I agree.