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swag
09-13-2009, 06:55 AM
I couldn't decide whether to put this in the Chris Rose thread or in the Saints thread, so I just started a new one instead.

I love this one.

Saints tailgaters thrive in a hostile barbecuing environment

by Chris Rose, Columnist, The Times-Picayune
Sunday September 13, 2009, 3:30 AM

Whoever designed the Superdome sure knew how to build a football stadium; at 30 years old, it remains a one-of-a-kind, world-class facility.. But they didn't know jack about tailgating.

By plopping the Dome smack in the middle of downtown, they left out of the grand scheme a design feature imperative to any building that wants to call itself a stadium: a huge, sprawling, asphalt horizon stretching into vast and endless rows of automobiles where the faithful gather together on Game Day to partake of one of the nation's most sacred and hallowed rituals.

Key word here being: together.

The Dome's location, instead, has spread us about in random lots throughout the Central Business District and underneath the behemoth tributaries of Interstate 10, where we are fenced in and forced to hand over $30 to some skeezy-looking guy who may or may not actually work for the owners of the plot of land where you just parked.

They even went so far as to create the most blasphemous and buzzkilling component of 20th-century stadium architecture: a multi-level parking lot adjacent to the stadium.

Whose idea was that? Parking indoors for a football game?

Of course, the fact that it's enclosed hasn't stopped everybody from trying: About 10 years ago a guy fired up a grill in the lot under the Dome and, naturally, a glowing coal rolled out of it and onto the ground and into a most-inconveniently located puddle of oil which then ignited and spread under a van, which was quickly consumed by roaring flames.

True story. And new rule: No grilling indoors.

It is our loss, then, that the Superdome and its adjoining patchwork of hodgepodge, crazy-quilt streets, parking lots and weed-strewn concrete jungles lack that centrally-located encampment of communal goodwill and celebration where the common folk can percolate amongst fellow members of the tribe and fly their colors, bleed black and gold, proclaim their fealty to Drew Brees, take the oath of loyalty, swell to twice their normal proportions with pride and beer and just generally shine.

Who friggin' dat, baby.

Strange, because in many NFL cities, the indigenous tailgate culture actually defines the fan base. For instance, when you think of Green Bay, you think of the NFL's high holy shrine -- Lambeau Field -- where tens of thousands of burly, bearded men named Olaf, Olsen and Hansen, dressed out in garments made of elk, moose and rubber, kick at their 4 by4 tires, inhale Pabst, cheese curds and brats and discuss, for the 12,000th time, the unrivaled greatness of one Mr. Brett Favre.

Until he went to Minnesota, that is.

My friend Bob, who recently moved to New Orleans from Kansas City, raved to me about Arrowhead Stadium, the home of the NFL Chiefs, and its giant pre-game, Epicurean love-fest.

"It's the barbecue capital of the U.S., dude!" he told me. "After hours and hours of food-preparation in the parking lot, suddenly there's this huge haze of smoke over the crowds. People wander around and are always happy to share their spoils with you. It's unparalleled!"

Unparalleled.

Can you stand it?

I brought Bob to the Miami preseason game last week and we wandered the radius of the Dome before the game, taking in the sights and sounds. I asked him what he thought of the scene.

"Disjointed" was his reply.

And it's true. It's hard to imagine any stadium anywhere in the country whose design is less hospitable to the traditional American tailgate scenario: Bose speakers rattling "Bon Jovi's Greatest Hits" in the back seat, guys tossing a football around the parking lot, laying out the condiments on the front bumper of the old Impala, sitting on the hood of a car with your arm around your best girl, drinking an ice-cold brew and thanking the Good Lord for having the good sense and wisdom, on that Seventh Day, to invent football before he finally took his rest.

Can I hear an Amen.

Time and tradition tell us that those hours before a football game -- those precious, crucial hours that can only be compared to Christmas morning, waiting to open gifts, waiting for that whistle to blow, waiting for the game to start, ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL?!! -- are best spent with the masses.

This is no time to be alone.

But can you imagine if New Orleans actually did have one of those big parking lots for Saints fans to tailgate in? If 70,000 people came rolling into one lot with their trunks filled with Webers, Igloos, Abitas and 12 kegs of attitude?

The implications are staggering. It's Mardi Gras times two thousand. It's bat-guano crazy.

There would probably be casualties. (In fact, maybe that's why they did it the way they did: To protect us from ourselves.) And, besides, no one would ever go to the games if we all got together beforehand.

I mean, why would you, if you could spend a beautiful fall afternoon outdoors in the company of 70,000 folks, each of whom considers him or herself the finest host, best cook and most prodigious drinker in all of creation and they will go to great extremes to prove all three of these points before inviting you to their home for red beans, to show you their new fleur-de-lis tattoo and then take you fishing at their camp in Grand Isle?

But here's the thing: They built a stadium with no tailgate lot and what did we do? We came downtown to tailgate.

Given every reason and opportunity to take the pre-game party somewhere else -- the 10,000 or so bars in the French Quarter come to mind -- Saints fans did what New Orleanians do best, which is to ignore the obvious and practical reasons not to do something and then just go ahead and do it anyway, and I'm pretty sure there's a Lower 9th Ward rebuilding analogy in here somewhere.

Because that's how we roll.

Just because we don't have some huge-ass parking lot (but we do have Huge Ass Beers!), we refuse to be deprived of our duty to drink too much too early in the day and start hugging people we don't know and believing -- really, truly, actually believing -- that this is the year the Saints go to the Super Bowl.

The whole downtown scene around here on Game Day Sundays is like "Field of Dreams" in reverse: Don't build it, and they will come.

We might not have a proper place to party but that doesn't mean we're not going to. It's kind of like that scene from Dr. Seuss' "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" when the villagers in Whoville wake up Christmas morning to find that everything is missing but every Who down in Whoville, the tall and the small, was singing, without any presents at all!

The Grinch hadn't stopped Christmas from coming. Somehow or other, it came just the same.

OK, this is just a football game, it's not Christmas, and nobody stole anything; they simply forgot to build the damn parking lot. But we still come out. We still come together. And suddenly that weedy lot under the I-10 doesn't seem so nasty a place to hang out once it smells like grilled andouille and somebody kicks up the Neville Brothers on a ghetto blaster.

That's the ticket, man. Welcome to Who Datville.

Nothing like it in the known world. The Who Dat Nation, the people of Louisiana and southern Mississippi have shown time and again our perseverance and creativity when we find that something is lacking in our lives -- like, say, our homes and possessions. So our "tailgate party" is not very easy to define or to photograph and it doesn't play so good on TV because everybody is all over the place, on neutral grounds and behind buildings and up the sun-bleached lots of Poydras Street.

And some folks are even at a "real" tailgate party, right there on top of the parking garage, and it would sure look like a lot of people if they were all partying in one place but never mind that because you can walk up to any one of them -- any damn one of them -- and you will find the finest hosts, the best cooks and the most prodigious drinkers in all of creation. On any Sunday. In Who Datville.

grisgris
09-13-2009, 08:47 AM
And here is the Who Dat Prayer
Prayer of the Who Dats

Lord God of All Victories,
With joy in our hearts and victory on our minds, we come to you, asking that you shower your blessings upon our beloved New Orleans Saints as we begin this new season of football.

Through your love, Lord, continue blessing Mr. and Mrs. Tom Benson and Ms. Rita Benson LeBlanc. Please reward them abundantly for working so hard to keep our Saints here at home in the Louisiana Superdome.

With your permission, we call on the prayers of the saints in heaven to bless and protect our Saints on Earth.

Through the intercession of St. Simon Peter, the first pope, may coach Sean Payton and all our coaches create game plans that lead and guide our players to victory.

Through the intercession of St. Michael the Archangel, guardian of heaven, may Jammal Brown, Jahri Evans and the entire offensive line continue to protect Drew Brees and our quarterbacks.

Through the intercession of St. Anthony of Padua, patron of lost articles, may Reggie Bush, Lance Moore, Pierre Thomas, Marques Colston and their friends continue to find the end zone.

Through the intercession of St. Joseph the Worker, patron of hard laborers, may Jonathan Vilma, Will Smith and all of our defensive players work diligently to defend our goal line and prevent our opponents from venturing too deep into Saintly territories.


Through the intercession of St. Joseph of Cupertino, patron of flight, may the kicks from John Carney fly through the uprights and the punts by Thomas Morestead fly high in the sky. Also, may our return men fly past our opponents and straight into the end zones!

Lord, through the intercession of St. Luke, the doctor, may all of our players remain healthy so that they can continue to use their God-given gifts to entertain our minds and uplift our spirits.

Thank you, Lord, that we no longer have to call on the intercession of St. Jude. At last, our team is no longer considered a hopeless case!

Through the intercession of the true Saints of New Orleans, St. Francis Cabrini, St. Katherine Drexel, Blessed Francis Seelos and Servants of God -- Mother Henriette Delille and John Paul II, may the New Orleans Saints bring to the football field the same vigor and energy that these saints brought to the streets of New Orleans.

May all of the Saints, both in heaven and here on Earth, continue to bring joy to our hearts until we are united with all the saints of God in the kingdom of heaven where the final victory has already been won.

Amen

linza22
09-13-2009, 09:10 AM
thanks you guys! that was great!

mightyradgumbo
09-13-2009, 11:52 AM
WhoDatville indeed..Geaux Saints!

swag
09-15-2009, 07:07 AM
Chris does a video follow-up report from Sunday:
http://www.nola.com/rose/index.ssf/2009/09/saints_tailgating_with_chris_r.html

freebo
09-15-2009, 09:09 AM
I can definitely get behind the enthusiasm of that column, and the video is just great.

It's enriching to have a passion for life, as long as the reason is peaceful.

And those folks, especially Darooo, are passionate, fa shigetty.

So: I wonder if Chris tried the chitterlings? :cool:

Frosty
09-15-2009, 09:23 AM
Kind of missed the boat on Lambeau. My first though when he mentioned the Superdome lacking asphalt extending out to the horizon is Lambeau Field where the the stadium is surrounded by homes, snowmobile repair shops, and churches. Yet, tailgating rules. It is a community event set up in the church parking lots, front yards and wherever else one can park his/her snowmobile and change into blaze orange.

Festngator
09-15-2009, 10:04 AM
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/video/video.php?v=102885196390320&oid=2252467562&ref=nf

Shamarr's Saint's song

Phatpapa
09-18-2009, 10:26 AM
Chris does a video follow-up report from Sunday:
http://www.nola.com/rose/index.ssf/2009/09/saints_tailgating_with_chris_r.html

Episode Deux

http://www.nola.com/rose/index.ssf/2009/09/video_tailgating_with_chris_ro.html

mightyradgumbo
09-18-2009, 06:04 PM
Kind of missed the boat on Lambeau. My first though when he mentioned the Superdome lacking asphalt extending out to the horizon is Lambeau Field where the the stadium is surrounded by homes, snowmobile repair shops, and churches. Yet, tailgating rules. It is a community event set up in the church parking lots, front yards and wherever else one can park his/her snowmobile and change into blaze orange.

I think he only half-missed it. Despite the community affair a Packers tailgate is, there is a large tailgaiting scene at the parking lot of the venue itself. This is what is impossible to do here. The improvisation though is pretty impressive as there are random tgs set up at various locations.

Frosty
09-21-2009, 08:49 AM
I think he only half-missed it. Despite the community affair a Packers tailgate is, there is a large tailgaiting scene at the parking lot of the venue itself. This is what is impossible to do here. The improvisation though is pretty impressive as there are random tgs set up at various locations.

My point being that while there is a small parking lot, Lambeau is not a stadium surrounded by parking lots. It is surrounded by businesses and homes. It is a far cry from these suburban stadiums with asphalt stretching in every direction.

swag
10-03-2009, 07:40 AM
http://www.nola.com/rose/index.ssf/2009/10/new_york_jets_fans_and_media_t.html (includes video version)

Watch Chris Rose talk a little New York Jets Who Dat smackdown
By Chris Rose
October 02, 2009, 2:00AM

No respect, man.

You could see it coming a mile away: Now that the Saints are 3-0, the cocksure prognosticators, pundits and fanboys of the New York sports scene have come to the conclusion that the Bless You Boys are an as-yet unproven entity this NFL season and that's because our schedule thus far has been "soft" and we have not faced any real competition (read: the brawny, battle-ready teams from New York City).

Well, what do you know! The Saints next two games are against the New York Jets and the New York Giants. And the ever-bilious commentary emanating from their hometown blogosphere and talk-radio yak-athons suggests that only at the conclusion of these games can the Saints be measured as legitimate contenders.

Can you stand it? That old saw about "if you can make it there, you'll make it anywhere" is as outdated as the 33 rpm LPs on which that song originally was recorded. Am I the only one who finds New York's self-righteous media, swaggering sports teams and blustery fan base a little . . . a little . . . well, to put it nicely, inebriated with the exuberance of their own verbosity?

That's right. They talk too much.

I mean, the Jets go 3-0 and suddenly they're the team to beat in the NFL this season? "We have won more playoff games in a single season than in your entire team's history, " a blogger named Eddie DiGio posted on thejetsblog.com this week.

And maybe that is so. But it's also true that the Saints have won exactly the same number of Super Bowls over the past three decades as the Jets: zero. Our Bless You Boys have had some horrific seasons, to be sure, and lost a lot of games, but the thing about the Saints is: They've always lost . . . interestingly.

We sucked with panache. Which is more than you can say about a team that named itself after a means of commercial transportation. Only New York would think of that. Though I would submit that the Delayed Flights or Middle Seats might be more suitable monikers to capture the real essence of New York City air travel.

The Jets? Like: Go Airplanes? Please return your quarterback to his upright and locked position. The setback in front of you may be used as a personal floatation device.

"Who Dat say dey gonna beat dem pedi-cabs?"

And they call us soft? The only thing soft around here is Bayona's white chocolate bread pudding. And, yet, here's what the cynical scribe Rich Cimini wrote for the New York Daily News this week: "Drew Brees, Jonathan Vilma and Marques Colston all declined requests to be the opposing player on tomorrow's conference call with the New York media. Dissed by three players; that has to be unprecedented. What are they afraid of?"

I would submit, Mr. Cimini, that fear is not the motivating factor here -- but sanity. The meat-grinding sports news industry in New York City is such that the only meaningful and lingering effects from participating in the Gotham City Circus is a migraine.

"Try not to choke on your crawfish and enjoy the beatdown, " a blogger named AKA Drew posted on that same Jets fan site. I ask you: How does one respond to such a crass entreaty?

Actually, it's painful to watch: The Jets and the Giants' fan bases are so desperate to cling to some dregs of their former identities as working-class teams and lunch-bucket Joes, slogging through the muddy gridiron of America's greatest city. But, in fact, here's the saddest thing you've ever heard: New York City actually has no NFL football teams.

Zero, zilch, zed, nada, rien, big fat goose egg.

Zippity-do.

The Giants and the Jets both relocated to New Jersey back when the wishbone offense was still held in high regard, but they both kept their New York City labels as some grasping and desperate means to keep from acknowledging that, in fact, they play in the . . . suburbs.

God, how painful it must be to see these words in print if you're a Jet or Giants fan. I mean: Who's going to wet themselves when the schedule says that the East Rutherford Jets are coming to town?

Then, two weeks later, the Giants come to town. The Big, Bad New Jersey Giants.

My question is: Giant what, exactly?

I'll tell ya what. Giant weenies is what.

And you can tell 'em I said so. And tell 'em this: After we hijack the Jets and cut the Giants down to size, then it's basketball season and we'll find ourselves up against the storied, the fabled, the legendary . . . New York Knickerbockers.

God in heaven, can you stand it? The Knickerbockers?

Go, Pants, Go! Win, Trousers, Win!

BigDag
10-03-2009, 08:39 AM
I love it! Very funny!!

eZe
10-03-2009, 10:17 AM
Priceless Rose!!!!!

barry10016
10-03-2009, 04:28 PM
very funny!

Orleansnj
10-03-2009, 10:46 PM
Geaux Chris......

I think the smiley below illustrates his point well

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t281/orleansnj/mooningsmiley.gif


Geaux Saints !!!

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t281/orleansnj/new_orleans_saints.gif

swag
10-07-2009, 11:06 PM
This week's edition.

http://tribeca.vidavee.com/advance/doc/4D0C71593DFA4D7C9BEC45C2155E85B3?AF_deliveryChanne l=play

Chris seems a bit out of it.

mightyradgumbo
10-07-2009, 11:18 PM
This week's edition.

http://tribeca.vidavee.com/advance/doc/4D0C71593DFA4D7C9BEC45C2155E85B3?AF_deliveryChanne l=play

Chris seems a bit out of it.

I was thinking the same thing, Swag. He seems a lil sleep deprived.